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Triple H, October 2011:

“When I grew up, I hated Hogan. I thought he was terrible and didn’t like to watch him. I was like Punk in a way. I liked the Steamboats and Flairs and the ones that could go. Would I be right in saying that Hogan was the wrong guy to go with, and they should’ve changed directions and gone with Steamboat because he was the better wrestler? Ludicrous.” - Triple H. October, 2011.

The 100...okay...114 Greatest Wrestlers of All Time

Wednesday, June 15, 2016

Every one year title reign.

Okay - so I took the previous lists of each title match in Counterfactual history, added as much of the real world as I could manage, generated a scoring system that heavily weighs upon numbers of and lengths of title reigns, and out it spit a list of the greatest wrestlers ever (not a subjective evaluation, not my saying "X was better than Y" just math)  Note, it's not a real world list; I understand about El Santo.  I'm privileging championships won in a curated set of promotions with a heavy weight to WWF, given that it's the protaganist.

Within the world of the Counterfactual, this is a big deal for the WWE Network; it's released ten names at a time over ten weeks, much in the same way the NFL Network has their Top 100 players show each season.  Video, interviews, commentary, arguments.  And these numbers are part of the canon, announcers will talk about wrestlers as if these ratings have real meaning.

Here's the 14 who just missed the top 100.

114. Kevin Steen
-ROH Champion, 3 Time PWG Champion, ROH Tag Champion

113. Mr. Fuji
-5 time WWF Tag Team Champion

112. Tony Garea
-5 time WWF Tag Team Champion

111. Blackjack Mulligan
-4 time NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

110. Katsuhiko Nakajima
- 3 time GHC Jr. Champion, AJPW Jr. Champion

109. CIMA
-3 time Dragon Gate Champion

108. Tajiri
- ECW Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, ECW TV Champion

107. Cowboy James Storm
-TNA Champion, 6 time TNA tag Team Champion

106. Hulk Hogan
-WWF Champion, AWA Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion

105. Claudio Castagnoli
-WWF Champion, PWG Champion, 2 Time ROH Tag Team Champion

104. Booker T
-WWF Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time NWA Tag Team Champion

103. Shelton Benjamin
-WWF Champion, 3 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time ROH Tag Team Champion

102. Paul Jones
-3 time NWA US Champion, 6 time NWA Tag Team Champion

101. Tyler Black
-ROH Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time ROH tag Team Champion

And now - the 100 greatest wrestlers, sort of, of all time.

100. Masahiro Chono 
-IWGP Champion, 7 time IWGP Tag Champion

99. Greg The Hammer Valentine 
-WWF IC Champion, 3 time NWA US Champion, 4 time NWA Tag Team Champion

98. Tiger Mask IV 
-6 time IWGP Jr. Champion

97. Minoru Tanaka 
-AJPW Jr. Champion, 4 time IWGP Jr. Champion

96. Christian 
-TNA X Champion, 2 Time WWF Tag Champion, 2 Time TNA Tag Team Champion

95. Randy Orton 
-2 time WWF IC Champion, 4 time WWF Tag Team Champion

94. Rick Steiner 
-3 time NWA Tag Team Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion

93. Scott Steiner 
-4 Time NWA Tag Team Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion


92. Road Warrior Hawk 
-2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time NWA Tag Team Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion

91. 2 Cold Scorpio 
-ECW TV Champion, 2 Time NWA US Champion, 2 Time GHC Tag Team Champion

90. Arn Anderson 
-2 Time NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion

89. Yoshinobu Kanemaru 
-AJPW Jr. Champion, 6 Time GHC Jr. Champion


88. Koji Kanemoto 
-5 Time IWGP Jr. Champion

87. Razor Ramon 
-2 Time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time NWA Tag Team Champion

86. Roddy Piper 
-2 Time WWF IC Champion, 2 Time NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion


85. Nigel McGuinness 
-ROH Champion, TNA Champion


84. DVon Dudley 
-2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 4 Time TNA Tag Champion, 2 Time ECW Tag Team Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion

83. Wahoo McDaniel 
-5 time NWA US Champion, 4 time NWA Tag Team Champion

82. Jay Briscoe 
2 time ROH Champion, 8 time ROH Tag Team Champion

81. Taz 
-ECW Champion, WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion


80. Yoshinari Ogawa 
-GHC Champion, 3 time AJPW Jr. Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion

79. Giant Baba 
-3 time NWA Champion

78. The Franchise Shane Douglas 
-2 Time NWA Champion, 2 Time ECW Champion


77. Kazuyuki Fujita 
-3 time IWGP Champion

76. Kazuchika Okada 
- 3 time IWGP Champion

75. Nature Boy Buddy Rogers 
-WWF Champion, NWA Champion


74. Alex Shelley 
-TNA Champion, 2 time TNA X Champion, 3 time TNA Tag Team Champion

73. Jeff Hardy 
-TNA Champion, 2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time TNA Tag Champion

72. Dean Malenko 
-NWA Champion, 2 Time NWA US Champion

71. Terry Gordy
-2 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 7 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion


70. Frank Gotch 
-World Heavyweight Champion

69. Jack Brisco 
-2 time NWA Champion, 3 time NWA Tag Team Champion

68. Bubba Ray Dudley 
-2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 5 Time TNA Tag Champion, 3 Time ECW Tag Team Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion


67. Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels 
-TNA Champion, 2 Time X Division Champion, 3 Time ROH Tag Team Champion, 2 time TNA Tag Team Champion


66. Riki Choshu 
-3 time IWGP Champion, 3 time IWGP Tag Team Champion

65. Taiyo Kea 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, AJPW Jr. Champion, 7 time AJPW Tag Team Champion, IWGP Tag Team Champion

64. Kenta 
-GHC Champion, 3 Time GHC Jr. Champion, GHC Tag Champion

63. Shinsuke Nakamura 
-3 Time IWGP Champion, IWGP Tag Champion

62. British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith 
-WWF Champion, 3 Time WWF Tag Team Champion

61. Nick Nemeth 
-WWF Champion, 2 time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

60. Edge 
-WWF Champion, WWF IC Champion, 2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion

59. Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig 
-WWF Champion, AWA Champion, WWF IC Champion

58. Sabu 
-ECW Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion


57. Dory Funk, Jr. 
-NWA Champion

56. Austin Aries 
-2 Time TNA Champion, 2 Time ROH Champion, 2 time TNA Tag Team Champion,  ROH Tag Team Champion

55. Low Ki 
-ROH Champion, 2 time TNA Champion, 2 time TNA X Champion. 3 time IWGP Jr. Champion, PWG Champion

54. Rob Van Dam 
-ECW Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, ECW TV Champion 2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time TNA tag Team Champion

53. Pedro Morales 
-WWF Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

52. Brock Lesnar 
-2 time WWF Champion, IWGP Champion

51. Kohei Suwama 
-4 time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion

...The Top Fifty...

50. Akira Taue 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, GHC Champion, 7 time AJPW Tag Team Champion

49. Go Shiozaki 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 2 time GHC Champion, 2 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion

48. Minoru Suzuki 
-2 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, GHC Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion, IWGP Tag Team Champion


47. Yuji Nagata 
-GHC Champion, 2 time IWGP Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion, 2 time IWGP tag Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion

46. Naomichi Marufuji 
-2 time GHC Champion, GHC Jr. Champion, AJPW Jr. Champion, IWGP Jr. Champion, 3 time GHC Tag Team Champion

45. Dr. Death Steve Williams 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, NWA Champion, 8 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion

44. Shinya Hashimoto 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 3 Time IWGP Champion, 3 Time IWGP Tag Champion

43. Jim Londos 
-World Heavyweight Champion

42. Joe Stecher 
-3 time World Heavyweight Champion

41. Dynamite Kid 
-2 Time WWF Champion

40. Takeshi Morishima 
-3 Time GHC Champion, ROH Champion, 5 Time GHC Tag Team Champion

39. Satoshi Kojima 
-2 time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 2 time IWGP Champion, 3 time AJPW Tag Team Champion, 6 time IWGP Tag Team Champion

38. Sting 
-2 Time NWA Champion, NWA US Champion, TNA X Champion, TNA Tag Champion

37. Samoa Joe 
-3 time TNA Champion, 2 time TNA X Champion, ROH Champion, GHC Tag Champion

36. Terry Funk 
-2 Time NWA Champion, ECW Champion, NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion

35. AJ Styles 
-2 time IWGP Champion, 3 Time TNA Champion, PWG Champion, TNA Tag Team Champion, ROH Tag Team Champion

34. Stone Cold Steve Austin 
-WWF Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, NWA US Champion, NWA Tag Champion

33. Randy Macho Man Savage 
-WWF Champion, 2 Time IC Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion

32. Chris Jericho 
-WWF Champion, NWA Champion, 3 Time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

31. Ed Strangler Lewis 
-3 Time World Heavyweight Champion

30. Hiroyoshi Tenzan 
-4 time IWGP Champion, 11 Time IWGP Tag Team Champion

29. Yoshihiro Takayama 
-AJPW Triple Crown Champion, GHC Champion, IWGP Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion, IWGP Tag Team Champion

28. Jun Akiyama 
-3 Time GHC Champion, AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 6 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion, 3 Time GHC Tag Team Champion

27. Jumbo Tsuruta 
-3 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 7 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion

26. Stan Hansen 
-4 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 8 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion, NWA US Champion 

25. Kensuke Sasaki 
-GHC Champion, AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 5 time IWGP Champion, 7 time IWGP Tag Team Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion

24. Jushin Thunder Liger 
-NWA Champion, Dragon Gate Champion, CMLL Champion, 11 Time IWGP Jr. Champion, GHC Jr. Champion

23. Cactus Jack 
-2 Time WWF Champion, WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, NWA Tag Team Champion

22. American Dragon Bryan Danielson 
-2 Time WWF Champion, ROH Champion, 2 Time PWG Champion, GHC Jr. Champion

21. Rey Mysterio, Jr. 
-2 Time WWF Champion, NWA Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

We've hit...the top 20.....

20. Eddy Guerrero 
-2 Time WWF Champion, NWA Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, NWA US Champion

19. CM Punk 
-3 time WWF Champion, ECW Champion, ROH Champion, TNA X Division Champion, 2 time ROH Tag Team Champion

18. Owen Hart 
-3 Time WWF Champion, 2 Time WWF IC Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, IWGP Jr. Champion

17. Bob Backlund 
-2 Time WWF Champion; 2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion

16. Kurt Angle 
-2 Time WWF Champion, 2 Time TNA Champion, TNA X Division Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

15. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat 
-2 Time WWF Champion, NWA Champion, 4 Time NWA US Champion, 6 Time NWA Tag Team Champion

14. Tatsumi Fujinami 
-6 Time IWGP Champion, 5 time IWGP Tag Team Champion

13. Handsome Harley Race 
-8 Time NWA Champion, NWA US Champion

12. Lou Thesz 
-3 Time NWA Champion

11. Hiroshi Tanahashi 
-7 Time IWGP Champion, CMLL Champion, 2 Time IWGP Tag Champion, GHC Tag Champion

Ready for the Top Ten...


10. Toshiaki Kawada 
-5 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 9 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion

9. Vader 
-2 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 3 Time IWGP Champion, 2 Time NWA Champion, WWF IC Champion, AJPW Tag Team Champion, IWGP Tag Team Champion, GHC Tag Team Champion

8. Kenta Kobashi 
-3 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, GHC Champion, 6 time AJPW Tag Team Champion, 2 Time GHC Tag Team Champion

7. The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels 
-2 Time WWF Champion, 5 Time WWF IC Champion, 3 Time WWF Tag Team Champion

6. Bret Hit Man Hart 
-3 Time WWF Champion, WWF IC Champion, 2 Time WWF Tag Team Champion

5. Chris Benoit 
-2 Time WWF Champion, 3 Time NWA Champion, WWF IC Champion, IWGP Jr. Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion

4. Bruno Sammartino 
-2 Time WWF Champion

3. Great Muta 
-3 Time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 4 Time IWGP Champion, NWA US Champion, 5 Time AJPW Tag Team Champion, 6 Time IWGP Tag Champion, 

2. Mitsuharu Misawa 
-5 time AJPW Triple Crown Champion, 3 time GHC Champion, 6 time AJPW Tag Team Champion, 2 time GHC Tag Team Champion

1. Nature Boy Ric Flair 
-2 Time WWF Champion, 6 Time NWA Champion, 6 Time NWA US Champion, WWF Tag Team Champion, 4 Time NWA Tag Team Champion

Every 1 Year Title Reign...Ever

Wednesday, June 01, 2016

Title match history is here.

..well, not every one, just the ones that matter in this world. Through WM31.

WWF Title
Bruno Sammartino 7 yrs, 8 mos
Bob Backlund 4 yrs
Bruno Sammartino 3 yrs, 4 mo
Kurt Angle 2 yrs
Bret Hart 2 yrs
Pedro Morales 1 yr, 10 mos
Chris Jericho 1 yr, 9 mos
Curt Hennig 1 yr, 9 mos
Bob Backlund 1 yr, 9 mo
Bryan Danielson, 1 yr, 3 mos
Ricky Steamboat 1 yr, 2 mos
Hulk Hogan 1 yr, 1 mo
Rey Mysterio 1 yr
Chris Benoit 1 yr.
Chris Benoit 1 yr.
Cactus Jack 1 yr
Bret Hart 1 yr
Randy Savage 1 yr
Ricky Steamboat 1 yr
Dynamite Kid 1 yr

AJPW Triple Crown
Mitsuharu Misawa 1 yr, 11 mos
Satoshi Kojima 1 yr, 5 mos
Toshiaki Kawada 1 yr, 5 mos
Mitsuharu Misawa 1 yr, 4 mos
Suwama 1 yr, 2 mos
Minoru Suzuki 1 yr
Mitsuharu Misawa 1 yr
Jumbo Tsuruta 1 yr

GHC Title
Kenta Kobashi 2 yrs
Takeshi Sugiura 1 yr, 8 mos
Mitsuharu Misawa 1 yr, 2 mos
Kenta 1 yr.
Takeshi Morishima 1 yr.

ROH Title
Samoa Joe, 1 yr, 9 mos
Nigel McGuinness 1 yr, 7 mos
Bryan Danielson 1 yr, 2 mos

IWGP Title
Shinya Hashimoto 1 yr, 4 mos
Kazuchika Okada 1 yr, 1 mo
Hiroshi Tanahashi 1 yr, 1 mo
Yuji Nagata 1 yr, 1 mo
Muta 1 yr, 1 mo
Shinya Hashimoto 1 yr
Vader 1 yr

NWA Title
Lou Thesz 6 yrs, 4 mos
Dory Funk 4 yrs 3 mos
Ric Flair 3 yrs, 6 mos
Gene Kiniski 3 yrs, 1 mo
Lou Thesz 3 yrs
Ric Flair 2 yrs.
Orville Brown, 1 yr, 10 mos
Ric Flair 1 yr, 9 mos
Buddy Rogers 1 yr, 7 mos
Harley Race 1 yr, 6 mos
Jack Brisco 1 yr, 5 mos
Pat O'Connor 1 yr, 5 mos
Sting 1 yr, 3 mos
Terry Funk 1 yr, 2 mos
Dick Hutton 1 yr, 2 mos
Steve Williams 1 yr, 1 mo.
Chris Benoit 1 yr.
Sting 1 yr.
Jack Brisco 1 yr
Lou Thesz 1 yr.

ECW Title
Sabu 3 yrs, 1 mo
Taz 1 yr, 6 mos
CM Punk 1 yr, 4 mos

TNA Title
Samoa Joe 2 yrs, 5 mos
AJ Styles 1 yr.

PWG Title
Adam Cole 1 yr, 6 mos
Chris Hero 1 yr, 2 mos
Joey Ryan 1 yr, 1 month

WWF IC Title
Randy Savage 2 yrs
Bret Hart 1 yr, 10 mos
MVP 1 yr, 5 mos
Shawn Michaels 1 yr, 2 mos
Pedro Morales 1 yr, 2 mos
Don Muraco 1 yr, 1 mo
The Rock 1 yr
Sheamus 1 yr
Cactus Jack 1 yr
Roddy Piper 1 yr

AJPW Jr.
Masanobu Fuchi 3 yrs, 6 mos
Masanobu Fuchi 2 yrs
Kaz Hayashi 1 yr, 11 mos
Yoshinori Ogawa 1 yr, 11 mos
Kendo Kashin 1 yr, 10 mos
Shuji Kondo 1 yr, 4 mos
Phil LaFon 1 yr, 2 mos
Katsuhiko Najajima 1 yr, 1 mo

GHC Jr.
Taiji Ishimori 1 yr, 3 mos
Yoshinobu Kanemaru 1 yr, 2 mos
Yoshinobu Kanemaru 1 yr

IWGP Jr.
Jushin Thunder Liger 1 yr, 8 mos
Prince Devitt 1 yr, 2 mos
Minoru Tanaka 1 yr, 1 mo
Jushin Thunder Liger 1 yr, 1 mo
Prince Devitt 1 yr

NWA US 
Tully Blanchard 2 yrs, 4 mos
Sting 1 yr, 1 mo
Barry Windham 1 yr, 1 mo
Arn Anderson 1 yr.

ECW TV
RVD 3 yrs
2 Cold Scorpio 2 yrs
Sandman 1 yr

TNA X
Sanjay Dutt 1 yr
Jay Lethal 1 yr

WWF Tags
The Shield 2 years (as of WM31)
Hart Foundation (Bret/Davey Boy/Anvil) 1 yr, 7 mos
Steiners 1 yr 2 mos
Road Warriors 1 yr. 2 mos
Rougeaus 1 yr
Santana/Beefcake 1 yr
Valiants 1 yr

AJPW Tags
Kea/Suzuki 1 yr, 7 mos

GHC Tags
Saito/Smith 1 yr, 4 mos
Misawa/Ogawa 1 yr

IWGP Tags
Bernard/Anderson 1 yr, 7 mos
Tenzan/Chono 1 yr, 4 mos
Tenzan/Kojima 1 yr, 2 mos
Anderson/Gallows 1 yr

NWA Tags
Road Warriors 2 yrs, 2 mo
Steiners 1 yr, 4 mo

ROH Tag Title
Kings of Wrestling 1 yr

ECW Tags
Public Enemy 2 yrs
Dudleys 1 yr, 6 mos
Bubba Ray/Whipwreck 1 yr.

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