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Triple H, October 2011:

“When I grew up, I hated Hogan. I thought he was terrible and didn’t like to watch him. I was like Punk in a way. I liked the Steamboats and Flairs and the ones that could go. Would I be right in saying that Hogan was the wrong guy to go with, and they should’ve changed directions and gone with Steamboat because he was the better wrestler? Ludicrous.” - Triple H. October, 2011.

Star Ratings - Wrestlemania

Friday, June 01, 2018

IRL I do a lot of star ratings; one of the ongoing lists I keep is of every 3 star and up match for each of the four major PPVs (I'm a little tougher grader than Meltzer, if that's a useful baseline). Anything 4 1/2 and up is a MOTYC. IRL, I've rated a tick fewer than 100 matches in WWF/WWE history at 4 1/4 and up (at the time of this writing)

So, I've done that list for the Counterfactual and here's every 3 and up match in Wrestlemania history; I'll do this for all the PPVs, heading toward a "Top 100 Counterfactual WWF PPV Matches of All Time" post.  I haven't rated any WM matches other than these, but I guess, were I asked about a specific match or card, I could.  I'll do the other PPVs too, you'll see those lists next summer, and the top 100 matches of all time should be ready to roll in 2020 (I've already done all of these lists, did them all this week, it was fun. I ranked every match from 4 1/4 up, so there's currently a top 142; if I can book 8 matches at 4 1/4 and up over the next two years, that'll be a top 150 to unveil in May, 2020, sort of an early 15th Anniversary celebration. There will be brief descriptions of the matches in those lists which is maybe a nice value add. Yeah, I have been doing this since 2005, what of it?)

Currently, here's how many 4 1/2 and up matches we've had on the PPVs (not going to try to figure out TV matches) (this is a dynamic document, these numbers have all changed)

Mania: 26
Summer Slam: 18
Survivor Series 12
Royal Rumble:20

That's 76.

These ratings supersede any previous rankings.  Don't hit me with "three years ago you said match X was better than Match Y."  I've rewatched.

Wrestlemania 
WWF Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Barry Windham         4 1/4
IC Title: Dog Collar Match Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine (switch)       4
Paul Orndorff (w/Piper) d. Hulk Hogan (w/T) (Muhammad Ali, guest referee)  3  1/4

Wrestlemania 2
WWF Title: Dynamite Kid d. Ricky Steamboat (switch)  4 3/4 
IC: Randy Savage (w/Liz) d. Roddy Piper (switch)   3 ¾
Tags: Hart Foundation (Bret Hart/Davey Boy Smith, w Anvil) d. Tito Santana/Brutus Beefcake (switch)  3 ½
No DQ: Terry Funk d. Dory Funk Jr.  3 ½ 
Hulk Hogan d. Paul Orndorff (w/T)  3

Wrestlemania 3
WWF Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Dynamite Kid (switch) 4 ¼
Tags: Hart Foundation (Bret/Davey Boy w/Anvil) d. Rougeaus (Jacques/Ray) 4 
IC: Randy Savage d. Jake Roberts 3
Hulk Hogan d. Roddy Piper (Guest Referee Pat Patterson) 3 

Wrestlemania 4
IC: Bret Hart d. Randy Savage (w/Liz) (switch) 4 ¼ 
WWF Title: Loser Leaves Town: Dynamite Kid d. Ricky Steamboat (switch) 3 ½
Tags: Rougeaus (Jacques/Ray w/Anvil) d. Strike Force (Tito Santana/Rick Martel) 3 1/2 
Rick Rude (w/Heenan) d. Jake Roberts 3
Davey Boy Smith d. Bam Bam Bigelow 3

Wrestlemania 5
WWF Title: Randy Savage (w/Liz) d. Bret Hart 4 1/2
IC: Rick Rude (w/Bobby) d. Curt Hennig (w/Bobby) 4 (switch)
Tags: Brainbusters (Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard w/Bobby) d. Rockers (Shawn Michaels/Marty Jannetty)4
Rick Martel d. Owen Hart 3 ½
Tito Santana d. Terry Taylor 3
Legends: Hulk Hogan d. Ultimate Warrior (Guest referee-Dusty Rhodes) 3

Wrestlemania 6
WWF Title: Curt Hennig (w/Heenan) d. Randy Savage (w/Liz) 4 1/4
IC: Bret Hart d. Shawn Michaels 4
Tito Santana d. Rick Martel 3 ¼

Wrestlemania 7
WWF Title: Curt Hennig (w/Bobby) d. Randy Savage 4 ½
IC: Bret Hart d. Genichiro Tenryu 4 
Marty Jannetty d. Shawn Michaels 4
Davey Boy Smith d. Rick Martel 3 1/4 

Wrestlemania 8
Owen Hart d. Shawn Michaels 4 ¼
WWF Title: Bret Hart d. Ric Flair (w/Hennig) (switch, Bret wins Triple Crown) 4
IC: Streetfight: Randy Savage d. Roddy Piper 3 3/4 
Tags: Money Inc (Ted DiBiase/Mike Rotundo) d. Strike Force (Tito Santana/Rick Martel) 3

Wrestlemania 9
WWF Title: Bret Hart d. Razor Ramon 4
IC: Shawn Michaels d. Curt Hennig 3 ½
Tags: Steiners d. Money Inc 3 ¼ 

Wrestlemania X
WWF Title: Owen Hart d. Bret Hart (Guest referee-Hennig) 5 (switch)
IC: Ladder Razor Ramon d. Shawn Michaels (w/Diesel/Waltman) 5 (switch)
Legends: Texas Death Match: Randy Savage d. Crush 3 ½ 

Wrestlemania 11
WWF Title: Bret Hart d. Shawn Michaels 5 (switch)
IC: Razor Ramon (w/Tammy/Waltman)  d. Owen Hart (Guest referee – Roddy Piper) (switch) 4
Loser Leaves Town: Bam Bam Bigelow d. Lex Luger 3
Jeff Jarrett d. Road Dogg 3

Wrestlemania 12
WWF Title: Iron Man: Shawn Michaels d. Bret Hart (switch) 4 ½ (that's 10 4+ matches for Bret)
Owen Hart d. Davey Boy Smith (Guest referee-Anvil) 4
IC: Vader d. Undertaker 3  ¾
No DQ: HHH (Waltman) d. Diesel (Razor) 3 1/2 
Tags: Steve Austin/Dustin Rhodes d. Chris Candido/Savio Vega 3 ½ 
Legends Parking Lot Brawl: Jake Roberts d. Roddy Piper 3

Wrestlemania 13
WWF Title Steve Austin (w/Pillman) d. Bret Hart (switch) 4 ½ 
Tags: Hart Foundation (Owen/Davey Boy) d. Doug Furnas/Phil LaFon 4  ¼ 
Cage: HHH d. Goldust 3 ¼
Rocky Maivia d. 2 Cold Scorpio 3

Wrestlemania 14
Taka Michinoku d. Mr. Aguila 4
WWF Title: Owen Hart d. Shawn Michaels (w/Clique) 3 ¾
Tags: Falls Count Anywhere New Age Outlaws d. Cactus Jack/Terry Funk (switch) 3 ¾
IC: Octagon Ken Shamrock draw Steve Austin (Guest referee-Mike Tyson) 3 1/2 
HHH d. Rock 3 ½ 

Wrestlemania 15
Tags: Ladder Match: Hardys d. Nation of Domination (Rock/DLo Brown) 4 ¼ 
WWF Title: Pure Wrestling: Cactus Jack d. Owen Hart (switch) 3 3/4 
IC: Falls Count Anywhere: Al Snow d. Steve Austin (switch) 3 ¾ 
Cage: HHH/Sean Waltman d. New Age Outlaws (Guest referee-Pete Rose) 3 ¾ 
Jeff Jarrett d. Ulysses Morley 3 ¼
Dustin Rhodes d. Bob Holly 3

Wrestlemania 16 (every match is here)
WWF Title: Chris Benoit d. Cactus Jack 4 ½ (switch)
IC: Eddy Guerrero d. Chris Jericho 4 ½ (switch)
Tags: TLC: Hardys (Lita) d. Dudleys (Spike), Edge/Christian (Guest referee-Bob Backlund) (switch) 4 ½ 
Dean Malenko d. Taka Michinoku 4 ¼ 
Kurt Angle d. Taz (w/Stevie Richards) 3 ¾ 
Rock d. DLo Brown 3 ½ 
HHH/Waltman (Trish) d. Hollys 3 1/4 
Perry Saturn d. Al Snow 3 ¼ 

Wrestlemania 17
WWF Title: Kurt Angle d. Chris Benoit (switch) 5 
Chris Jericho d. Eddy Guerrero (Guest referee-Hector Guerrero) 4 ½
IC: Falls Count Anywhere: Steve Austin d. Steve Regal 4 ¼
Tags: Elimination Match: Dudleys d. Raven/Taz, Hardys, Edge/Christian 4
Cage: HHH d. Sean Waltman (w/Clique) 3 ¾ 
Legends: Rock d. Undertaker (w/DMW) 3 ½ 

Wrestlemania 18
Tags: TLC3: Chris Jericho/Lance Storm (w/Stacy) d. Hardys, Bubba/Spike 4 1/4  
WWF/ECW Title: Kurt Angle d. Curt Hennig 3 ¾
IC/US/TV: ECW Rules: RVD (w/Heyman) d. Steve Austin (switch) 3 ¾
Submission: Rock d. Steve Regal (Guest referee-Brock Lesnar) 3 1/2 
Booker T d. DDP 3 ½
Shane Helms (w/Chavo) d. Al Snow (w/Morley) 3
Edge/Christian (w/Trish) d. Razor/HHH (w/Diesel) 3

Wrestlemania 19
Eddy Guerrero (w/Horsemen) d. Chris Benoit 4 ¾ 
WWF/NWA/ECW Kurt Angle d. Brock Lesnar (Guest referee-Bill Goldberg) 4 ¼
IC/US/TV Rey Mysterio d. Chavo Guerrero (w/Horsemen) 4
Loser Leaves Town: Chris Jericho d. Lance Storm 4
Tags: HBK/HHH (Diesel) d. Charlie Haas/Shelton Benjamin (switch) 3 ¾ 
Matt Hardy (w/Bischoff) d. RVD (w/Heyman) 3 ½
Legends: Rock d. Steve Austin 3 ½ 

Wrestlemania XX (every match)
WWF/NWA/ECW: Chris Benoit d. Kurt Angle (switch) 5
Falls Count Anywhere: HBK d. HHH 4 ½
Hell in a Cell: Chris Jericho d. Christian 4 ½
IC/US/TV: Ladder: Eddy Guerrero d. Chavo Guerrero 4  ¼
Rey Mysterio d. Ultimo Dragon, Tajiri 3 ¾
Tables: RVD (w/Heyman) d. Matt Hardy 3 ¾
Legends: Weapons Match: Rock/Cactus Jack d. Brock Lesnar/Bill Goldberg (Guest referee-Steve Austin) 3 

Wrestlemania 21
WWF/NWA/ECW: Iron Man: Eddy Guerrero d. Chris Benoit (switch) (Guest referee- Dean Malenko) 4 ¾ 
Kurt Angle d. Christian 4
Rey Mysterio d. Paul London 4
Shawn Michaels d. Chris Jericho 4 

Wrestlemania 22
WWF/NWA/ECW: Rey Mysterio d. Chris Benoit 4 ½ 
IC/US/TV: Fit Finlay (w/Malenko) d. Steve Regal 4 ¼ 
Edge (w/Lita) d. HBK 3 ¾
Shelton Benjamin d. Kurt Angle 3 ¾ 
Legends: Hardcore: Cactus Jack (w/Heyman) d. RVD (w/Stevie) 3 ½ 
Matt Hardy d. Ric Flair (w/Arn)  3

Wrestlemania 23
Hell in a Cell: Matt Hardy d. Edge 4
Legends: Undertaker d. HBK (Guest referee- Steve Austin) 4 (10 4 star matches for Michaels, Bret had 11) 
ECW: CM Punk (w/Maria) d. RVD, Sabu 3 ½ 
WWF Title: Booker T d. Bobby Lashley 3 ¼ 
IC/US/TV: Randy Orton d. Jeff Hardy, Shane Helms (switch) 3 ¼
NWA: Fit Finlay d. Ric Flair 3

Wrestlemania 24
WWF/NWA/ECW: TLC CM Punk (w/Maria) d. Johnny Nitro, Shelton Benjamin 4 ¼
Edge d. Chris Jericho 4 ¼
Falls Count Anywhere: Juggernaut Eddie Little d. Fit Finlay 3 ½
IC/US/TV: MVP d. Brian Kendrick, Jamie Noble 3 ½ 
Tags: John Cena/Leviathan Batista (w/Arn) d. HHH/HBK (Guest referee-Ric Flair) 3 ½ 
Stevie Richards d. Yakuza Yang 3
LWO (Chavo Guerrero/Carlito Colon) d. S&S (Lance Cade/Trevor Murdoch) 3

Wrestlemania 25
WWF Title: Chris Jericho d. Shawn Michaels 4 ½ (Shawn catches Bret)
Montreal Match: Matt Hardy d, Jeff Hardy, Edge, Christian 4
Johnny Nitro d. Shelton Benjamin 4
Randy Orton (w/Malenko, Ted Jr.) d. Fit Finlay 3 3/4 
IC: Mask vs Title: Rey Mysterio d. MVP (switch) 3 ½ 
CM Punk (w/Maria) d. Ricky Steamboat 3 ¼ 
Legends Death Match: Undertaker d. Bradshaw 3 ¼ (Guest referee- Jimmy Snuka)

Wrestlemania 26
Edge/Matt Hardy d. CM Punk/Christian  4 1/4
WWF Title: Chris Jericho d. Steve Regal 4
IC: Matt Sydal d. Yoshi Tatsu (w/Cole) 3 ¾ 
Tags: Young Money (Kingston/ Truth Killings) d. Division One (Jack Swagger/Nick Nemeth) (switch) 3 ½ 
Rey Mysterio/Chavo Guerrero d. Carlito Colon/Primo Colon 3 ¼ 
Hooligans (Sheamus/Drew McIntyre) d. Defiance (Randy Orton/Ted DiBiase, w/Malenko) 3
Legends Light Tube: Undertaker/Cody Rhodes d. Dustin Rhodes/Yakuza Yang (w/Dusty) 3

Wrestlemania 27
Bryan Danielson d. Rey Mysterio 4 ¼ 
WWF Title: CM Punk d. Edge (switch) 4 ¼
MITB: Nick Nemeth d. Cody Rhodes/Primo Colon/Tyson Kidd/Kingston/Killings 4
IC: Sheamus d. Johnny Nitro 3 ½ (switch)
Tags: Empire (Wade Barrett/Justin Gabriel) d. Defiance (Randy Orton/Ted DiBase) (Guest Referee-Animal) 3 
Legends: Dos Caras, Jr. d. Undertaker 3
Miz d. HHH-M 3
Douchebags  (Zach Ryder/Curt Hawkins w/Cole) d. Matt Sydal/Yoshi Tatsu 3

Wrestlemania 28
WWF Title: Bryan Danielson (w/Steamboat) d. Chris Jericho 4 ¼ (10 4 star matches for Jericho)
ECW Title: CM Punk d. John Cena 4
Nick Nemeth d. Jack Swagger 3 3/4 
Legends: HHH-M d. Undertaker 3 ½ 
Tyson Kidd/Justin Gabriel (w/Cole) d. Usos 3
IC: Rock d. Sheamus (switch) (Guest referee-Mick Foley) 3
Tags: Young Money (Kingston/Killings) d. Defiance (Orton/Cody Rhodes) 3

Wrestlemania 29
WWF Title: Brock Lesnar (w/Heyman) d. Bryan Danielson (w/Steamboat and Punk) (Guest referee-Bruno Sammartino)(switch) 4 ½ 
Legends: CM Punk d. Chris Jericho 4 (Jericho catches Bret and Shawn)
IC: Nick Nemeth d. Rock,Swagger (switch, triple crown) 3 1/2
Tags: Shield (Tyler Black/Dean Ambrose) d. Empire (Barrett/Ryback) (switch) 3 1/4 
No DQ: Randy Orton d. Fandango Curtis 3
Roman Reigns Uso d. Dos Caras, Jr 3 

Wrestlemania XXX
WWF Title: Claudio Castagnoli d. Bryan Danielson (switch) 5
Tags: Shield (Black/Ambrose/Langston) d. Usos (Roman/Jimmy/Jey) 4 ¼ 
IC: Ladder: Nick Nemeth d. Sheamus 4
Tables: Kingston d. Kidd/Primo/Tatsu  3 ½
Bray Wyatt (w/Harper) d. Rey Mysterio (Guest referee-Jake Roberts) 3 ½ 
Wyatts (Cena/Dustin) d. Defiance (Orton/Cody) 3 ¼ 
AJ Lee d. Natty Neidhart 3

Wrestlemania 31
Kenta d. Bryan Danielson 4 ½
WWF Title No DQ: Brock Lesnar d. Claudio Castagnoli 4 ½
Tags: Shield (Black/Ambrose) d. Division One (Nemeth/Swagger) 3 ¾
IC: Bray Wyatt d. Luke Harper 3 ¾ (switch)
Bull Rope Match: Cody Rhodes d. Dustin Rhodes (Guest referee-Dusty Rhodes) 3 ½ 
Kingston d. Tyson Kidd 3 ½ 
Rusev d. Langston 3
Direct to Video: Randy Orton/HHH-M/Miz d. Usos 3

Wrestlemania 32
IC: El Generico d. AJ Styles (switch) 4 ½ 
WWF Title: Elimination Chamber AJ Styles d. Kevin Steen, Nick Nemeth, Dean Ambrose, Kalisto, Brock Lesnar 4 ¼ (switch)
Tags: Usos d. New Day (switch) 3 ¾
Legends Retirement Match: Chris Jericho d. HHH-M (Guest referee-Edge) 3 ½
Women’s Title: Sasha Banks d. Charlotte Flair (switch) 3 ½
Rusev (w/Lana) d. Dos Caras, Jr. 3

Wrestlemania 33
Tags: Ladder Wars: Trash (Neville/Claudio) d. El Generico/Kevin Steen (switch) 4 ¾
WWF Title: AJ Styles (w/Bullet Club) d. Austin Aries (Guest referee-Kurt Angle)  4 ¼
IC: Brock Lesnar (w/Heyman) d. Chris Jericho 3 ¾
Dean Ambrose d. Tyler Black 3 ¾ 
Bullet Club (Karl Anderson/Doc Gallows) d. American Alpha (Chad Gable/Jason Jordan) 3 ¾ 
Tags: Ladder: Broken Hardys (Matt/Nero) d. Trash (Claudio/Neville) 3 ½ (switch)
Usos d. Kalisto/Apollo Crews 3 ½
Roman Reigns Uso d. Nick Nemeth 3 ½
Women’s Title: Becky Lynch (w/Bullet Club) d. Sasha Banks (switch) 3 ½
Full Circle: Randy Orton/John Cena d. Luke Harper/Bray Wyatt 3 ¼ 

Wrestlemania 34
AJ Styles d. Bryan Danielson 4 ½
Mask vs. Mask: El Generico d. Kid Canada (Steen) (Rey Mysterio – special guest referee) 4 ¼
Cedric Alexander (w/Tozawa) d. Prince Devitt (w/Anderson and Gallows) 4 ¼
WWF Tag Titles: Revival (Dash/Dawson with AA and Ric Flair) d. Usos (Jimmy/Jey) 4 ¼
Money in the Bank:  Tyler Black d. Apollo Crews (w/Kalisto), Luke Harper (w/Bray),  Claudio Castagnoli (w/Gargano), Bobby Roode (w/Strong), Roman Reigns-Uso  4
Title vs. Title: WWF Champion Shinsuke Nakamura d. IC Champion Brock Lesnar (w/Heyman) 3 3/4
WWF Women’s Title: Lumberjack Match: Asuka d. Becky Lynch 3 3/4 
Kurt Angle/Chad Gable (w/Benjamin)  d. Bullet Club (Anderson/Gallows) 3

Wrestlemania 35
IC: Ricochet d. Prince Devitt 4 3/4
Bryan Danielson d. Samoa Joe 4 1/2
WWF Title: AJ Styles d. Shinsuke Nakamura 4 1/2
Usos d. Revival 4
Women's Title: Asuka d. Ronda Rousey 4 1/4
Tyler Black d. Claudio Castagnoli 3 3/4
Alestair Black/Buddy Murphy d. Chad Gable/Bobby Lashley 3 3/4
Cage: Kingston d. Rusev 3 1/2
Mysterio/Sombra d. Kalisto/Crews 3 1/2
Tag Titles: Lesnar/Angle/Benjamin d. Hooligans 3 1/4
Hardys d. Ali/Dorada 3




Top 10 Wrestlemania Matches
1. WM30 WWF Title: Claudio Castagnoli d. Bryan Danielson (switch) 5
2. WM 20 WWF/NWA/ECW: Chris Benoit d. Kurt Angle (switch) 5
3. WM17 WWF Title: Kurt Angle d. Chris Benoit (switch) 5 
4. WMX  WWF Title: Owen Hart d. Bret Hart (Guest referee-Hennig) 5 (switch)
5. WMX  IC: Ladder Razor Ramon d. Shawn Michaels (w/Diesel/Waltman) 5 (switch)
6. WM11 WWF Title: Bret Hart d. Shawn Michaels 5 (switch)
7. WM19  Eddy Guerrero (w/Horsemen) d. Chris Benoit 4 ¾ 
8. WM2   WWF Title: Dynamite Kid d. Ricky Steamboat (switch)  4 3/4  
9. WM33 Tags: Ladder Wars: Trash (Neville/Claudio) d. El Generico/Kevin Steen (switch) 4 ¾
10. WM21 WWF/NWA/ECW: Iron Man: Eddy Guerrero d. Chris Benoit (switch) (Guest referee- Dean Malenko) 4 ¾ 

11. WM 35 IC: Ricochet d. Prince Devitt (switch) 4 3/4
12. WM13  WWF Title Steve Austin (w/Pillman) d. Bret Hart (switch) 4 ½
13. WM16: Tags: TLC: Hardys (Lita) d. Dudleys (Spike), Edge/Christian (Guest referee-Bob Backlund) (switch) 4 ½ 
14. WM29  WWF Title: Brock Lesnar (w/Heyman) d. Bryan Danielson (w/Steamboat and Punk) (Guest referee-Bruno Sammartino)(switch) 4 ½ 
15. WM31: Kenta d. Bryan Danielson 4 ½
16. WM16: WWF Title: Chris Benoit d. Cactus Jack 4 ½ (switch)
17. WM 34 AJ Styles d. Bryan Danielson 4 ½
18. WM31: WWF Title No DQ: Brock Lesnar d. Claudio Castagnoli 4 ½
19. WM22: WWF/NWA/ECW: Rey Mysterio d. Chris Benoit 4 ½
20. WM35 Bryan Danielson d. Samoa Joe 4 1/2

21. WM 17 Chris Jericho d. Eddy Guerrero (Guest referee-Hector Guerrero) 4 ½
22. WM 16: IC: Eddy Guerrero d. Chris Jericho 4 ½ (switch)
23. WM32: IC: El Generico d. AJ Styles (switch) 4 ½ 
24. WM5  WWF Title: Randy Savage (w/Liz) d. Bret Hart 4 1/2
25. WM12 WWF Title: Iron Man: Shawn Michaels d. Bret Hart (switch) 4 ½








3 comments

Anonymous said...

Quickly scrolled through this and LOL to Yoshi Tatsu having a 3.5 star match with anyone.

Anonymous said...

(KC) Tatsu should have been in a tag team and not singles.

zez tv said...

Click wrestlemania 36

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